![]() ![]() It’s already too late to not only catch up, but to care anymore, you know what I mean? I feel like we’re living in this time where if you don’t read the thing on the Internet that day, then you missed it. Not to be all lofty, but the response has been nice. Why focus on making something substantial in a world that appears to want sound bite-sized entertainment? A radio podcast is a really good medium for that because you’re actually experiencing something instead of reading a list of steps on an Internet screen. It’s about actually experiencing the process of moving through the case. It’s not just listing a whole bunch of steps. If I solve it too soon, I don’t think it’s still satisfying. The whole thing is that you have to convey that time has passed in order to feel like I’m on the case. I think about the passage of time a lot in the show. For instance, I let the music play longer than I would do on a This American Life story. I build in a lot of moments that are about the individual themes being able to unfold. How do you control the pace and length of the episodes to make them more substantial? Maybe other people thought it was too long, but I loved the idea of making something really substantial. The last one was 77 minutes and I loved that. Originally I wanted them to never be less than 20 minutes, but now I think I never want them to be shorter than half an hour. I feel like it doesn’t just apply to the Internet, it applies to lots of things, like lots of movies too. Not to sound out of touch and old and all that. I feel things getting smaller and quicker. ![]() The Internet is starting to drive me insane. The fact that you can’t Google the answers is not just one of the rules-not being part of the Internet applies to the pacing and rhythm of the show. Listeners sit with you for over an hour as you unravel each clue and dig deep. There is a lot of pressure in the media today to create bite-sized stories that allow readers and listeners to quickly digest the media and move on with their day. I wasn’t even really looking to do a radio show, but then suddenly I had this idea about mysteries. “I was looking for a way to tell a story where even I would be surprised.”Īctually, I think the idea for mysteries came first before the idea for a radio show. That element of discovery and surprise is the same reason I like mysteries. I found it really appealing not knowing where the story was going to go and where it was going to end up. I loved the idea of something happening live. I didn’t want to retell a story that had already happened or have people telling stories that had already happened to them. I was looking for a way to tell a story where even I would be surprised. How did you come to focus on mysteries as your storytelling structure? Starlee sat down with me to talk about Mystery Show, why the internet is driving her crazy, and which detective is the most badass detective of all time. Starlee proves that everyone has an interesting story hidden away- you just have to listen. Along the way, these stories weave together into an entertaining, layered narrative that’s less about solving a mystery and more about the power of human connection. To crack a case, she follows a meandering trail of stories, collecting clues from conversations with leads, witnesses, and a slew of bystanders. Starlee only takes on mysteries that are “ungooglable”-meaning she has to look offline for the answers. In fact, being friendly to strangers is how she solves most of her mysteries. Starlee is a detective you want to be friends with. Best of all, she’s not even a little bit fictional-she is the very real host of Gimlet Media’s knockout podcast Mystery Show. ![]() She’s friendly, empathetic, and is almost never seen wearing hats. On the scale of socially awkward detectives, Starlee is the anti-Holmes. Not exactly BFF material.Īnd then there’s Starlee Kine, podcasting detective extraordinaire. Marple, detectives are typically creepy loners, ruled by suspicion, unable to trust anyone-especially people closest to them. From wisecracking Philip Marlowe to gossipy Mrs. In fact, most popular fictional detectives would make terrible friends. But let’s be honest: He was kind of a jerk. Would you be friends with Sherlock Holmes? Sure, he’s a total genius with a flair for adventure. ![]()
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